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on avoiding the fiscal cliff, john boehner has a press conference at 11:30 after his meeting with tim geithner. connell: we will speak with -- see what the speaker has to say. with all this back and forth, a decent amount of speculation that a deal is starting to take shape. look at the reporting from politico and they put numbers to its save a framework looks like this. taxes for revenue would rise by $1.2 trillion. families making them to $50,000 would see higher taxes which we have been expecting and entitlement programs would be cut by $400 billion, most coming for medicare and, quote, end of war savings peter barnes and others reported many times as being dubious because they counted the previous budget you have another trillion plus in cuts. that according to politico is the deal, steve murphy is a former campaign manager for dick gephardt and in d.c. today. from the democratic of view anything i just say or just said sound unreasonable? >> i don't think it sounds reasonable except i don't think it is enough. i don't think either party is being realistic about the enormity of the debt an
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speaker boehner says fiscal cliff talks, well, they have gone, quote, almost nowhere. that is encouraging, isn't it? when will both sides finally make progress towards a deal? "wall street journal's" gerald seib met with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. he will be here to tell us what he had to say. tracy: i'm excited. new study says which americans pay the most in taxes and probably not who you think or maybe it is. it raises questions who is really not paying their fair share. ashley: i think it is me by the way. if fiscal cliff wasn't bad enough, food prices will spike in the new year, you remember the drought, plus inaction in congress will cost you more at the checkout. tracy: i remember jeff flock out in those fields right? ashley: can't forget that. tracy: time for stocks as we do every 15 minutes. lauren simonetti on the floor of new york stock exchange today. we got another sign of consumer weakness, didn't we? >> tracy and ashley, consumer spending fell in october, first decline in five months that is keeping a cap on stocks. all three major averages in the red. dow turne
john boehner. of course boehner will be key to moving the needle on these fiscal cliff negotiations. this comes on the heels of a phone call between president obama and speaker boehner which occurred credit. my sources are telling me the phone call lasted for about a half an hour. politico described it as curt, but may sources say that's not necessarily the case. so of course treasury secretary tim geithner coming in to the hill trying to move the needle on the fiscal cliff and we're hearing that there are sort of broad outlines of a framework emerging. but of course they really need to put some meat on the bones. what does that mean in terms of increasing taxes and cutting medicare. to those are some of the issues being hammered out today. >> kristen, thank you so much. so as we said, it is tim geithner's day on the hill. is this a sign that talks are being accelerating or hitting stumbling blocks? joining me now senator kent conrad. sir, great to have you here. we showed the headline at the top of the show, from politico, the fiscal framework emerging. are the contours of the deal
of speaker boehner's proposal to avert the fiscal cliff? >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about $800 billion worth of revenues but says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: he won't agree to eliminate a tax deduction for contributions to charity. >> every hospital and university and nonfor profit agency across the country would find themselves on the verge of collapse. so that's not a realistic option. >> reporter: but the president didn't say all this to speaker boehner. he said it in an interview on bloomberg tv. the last time the two men spoke was almost a week ago. president obama is focused on the stalemate with congress over averting the fiscal cliff, but he's just not talking to house republicans about it. at the white house, he discussed the issue with a bipartisan group of governors. >> i know that the president wants a deal and he didn't try to handicap it. >> reporter: earlier this week, he told so-called middle class americans on twitter, keep pressure on congress. he
as democrats and republicans dig in and ramp up the rhetoric on the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner and senate majority leader harry reid trading jabs before the cameras on capitol hill. >> going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> speaker boehner made very clear at his press conference that he thinks the ball is in your court and the president's court. he says democrats have got to get series about spending cuts. where is the disconnect? >> i don't understand his brain so you should ask him. okay? >> reid making those comments to our own kate bolduan. i'm joined by dan lothian. dan, we're learning more about the white house plan to deal with the fiscal cliff. break it down for us. >> reporter: right. this is the plan that secretary -- treasury secretary timothy geithner took up to capitol hill yesterday. it calls for $1.6 trillion in tax increases over a ten-year period more than republicans had anticipated. in addition to that, $400 billion in spending cuts that will
boehner about the fiscal cliff negotiations. i think he said you guys got to get serious. pretty serious about his criticism of the white house. bonuses for executives shutting down hostess. that's right. a u.s. bankruptcy judge approved $1.75 million in incentive bonuses yesterday for 19 hostess bosses, as they unwind the company. the maker of beloved american staples like twinkies, wonder bread, ding dongs, ho-hoes, closed its doors earlier this month after its bakers union went on strike over reduced pay and benefits, and you'll recall the company went to a judge and said we're going to shut down. so they are. executives will get bonuses as they finish the job of closing down the company. >> a long time in the making, right? >> it could be they survived the great depression but couldn't survive the great recession and a couple attempts at bankruptcy, and that's it. so we'll see. maybe the brands will exist if another company hires them. >> ahead on "starting point" not a good sign when your big negotiator for the fiscal cliff literally gets laughed at. what's the next move for the oba
, and mitch mcconnell laughs, and boehner says it's terrible. there's a fiscal cliff, and this offer isn't good. show me the money, folks. you have the power. you're bragging about the fact that you kept the house. good. show us your offer. put down your offer. now, here's my view on this. and it is the same as the president's in this respect. rough the biggest aspects of the fiscal cliff is the fact that tax rates are going to go up on all americans. the senate has passed a bill that would give the middle class 98% of the people their tax cut. it is done. it's in a package. it's sitting at our desk. and all that has to happen is for the house to take it up. the only reason they're not taking it up is they want millionaires and billionaires to get their taxes cut, too. and this was a big issue in the campaign, thomas. so why don't we, instead of throwing insults, why don't they just pick up and pass that part as their own republican, tom cole suggested, let's have some good faith here, and we'll hammer out the rest of it. >> so senator, one thing you say about show me the money, if we ta
's comments on the fiscal cliff were a huge favor to speaker john boehner. >>> plus, our news nation gut check. this congress is on track to becoming least productive class since the '40s. do you think the next congress will get anything more done? check us out on our news nation tumbler page. you'll find behind the scenes pictures you're looking for. [ female announcer ] a classic meatloaf recipe from stouffer's starts with ground beef, unions, and peppers baked in a ketchup glaze with savory gravy and mashed russet potatoes. what makes stouffer's meatloaf best of all? that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. let's fix dinner. >>> president obama and mitt romney met today for a private lunch at the white house. their first meeting since they traded barbs in a contentious election. romney has been keeping a pretty low profile in the three weeks since the election. he has made no public appearances. there you see him. unlike losing candidates in the past, he had no job in washington to return to. nbc's kristen welker live at the white house. let's get into this. the
speaker, john boehner, both expressing optimism on those fiscal cliff negotiations in washington. the dow rallied 100 points yesterday off of those comments. how many times have you heard me say congress will mess it up. >>> goldman sachs ceo met with the president and others yesterday for those fiscal cliff talks. listen to what he told wolf blitzer when asked if taxes should be raised on those making more than $250,000 a year. if that's what it takes to make the math work when you look at entitlement side and revenue side, i wouldn't preclude that. of course we would have to do that if the numbers drive that way. >> he said america can't afford itself right now the way we're going. fiscal cliff talks today continue with geithner making the rounds on capitol hill. later this morning, third quarter gdp expected to be revised higher. economists expect gdp for july to september to be revised from 2% to 2.8%. that would be good news. this is still modest growth. everyone hopes that next year will be a better year than this one in terms of growth. you want to see more than 2.5% growth consist
television moments ago, getting parts of this interview says speaker boehner's proposal on the fiscal cliff is still out of balance. that is a quote the president has given about the letter and the proposal that you sent to capitol hill. realistically, when do you need to get a deal done to avoid the country from going off the fiscal cliff? know there is limited days. >> yes. jenna: when does an actual deal have to be done so it gets through those logistical processes we know need to be done in both the house and the senate? >> the sooner we can get a deal the better. speaker boehner, as i said, he, the day after the election, said, okay, we'll put tax revenue on the table. let's start the negotiations. you know this can be done. president reagan and tip o'neill back in the early '80s, they negotiated a deal to save social security and address tax reform and the other entitlement programs, the spending --. jenna: if i could. reagan famously said trust but verify. >> yes. jenna: why should we trust you? why should we trust lawmakers in office now they can do this? >> because i would say we'r
out their fiscal cliff counteroffer to the white house. includes $800 billion in new tax revenue. that is roughly half what the president was aiming for. 300 billion in discretionary spending cuts. 900 billion in mandatory spending cuts. now the white house responding just moments ago saying quote, the republican letter released today does not meet the test of balance. they don't like it. i'm joined by dan mitch chill from the cato institute for more on this. dan what do you think. these are a lot of things to occur just in the past few hours. do you feel like there is progress being made? >> there is progress but progress in the wrong direction. the number one thing to understand already even if all the tax cuts were made permanent, tax revenues projected to grow by 6.2% a year. so what they're really debating about how much should it grow even faster than that in order to enable bigger government. 100% of our fiscal problem is on the spending side. obama is being very inflexible on that. republicans i'm afraid will get taken to the cleaners just what happened in 1990 when read
comments made by president obama and house speaker john boehner, both expressing optimism on fiscal cliff negotiations in the washington. in a new report from the congressional budget office it says more than half a trillion has been spent on jobless benefits over the past five years. $520 billion in jobless benefits in five years. also part of the debate, whether to extend the deadline to file for additional unemployment benefits beyond the end of the year. spending on food stamps is rising. nearly 15 million households received food stampses in 2011, up 10% from the year before according to new data from the census bureau. it shows you the far reach of the government right now in the safety net in supporting american families. all of that at the core of the debate of what's happening with the fiscal cliff. >>> $7 coffee. starbucks thinks you will pay. coffee connoisseurs can pay $7 for a grande cup of costa rica fincapalamara. it's called mucho deneiro. cultivated from a central american bean known as geisha. it is extremely difficult to produce. the same america who spends $7 on lotter
the fiscal cliff is serious business. i am here seriously trying to reresolve it. >>reporter: a lot of people wonder if speaker boehner is trying to show he is fighting against some of the tax changes and he will come along to a deal. vice president biden went to a costco in washington, today, proclaimed himself optimistic there will be a deal and bought a big screen tv and and an apple pie. >>shepard: you mention speaker boehner and the fact is there is a group if his party, the conservative part that doesn't want him to act like he is moving and that is who he is talking to today? >>reporter: they want him to dig in. they want him to completely resist essentially going back to the old clinton administration tax rates of 39.6 percent on the top level. the bottom line when you ask about whether there is any progress there are signs of progress from the white house briefing and carney today said the president said in this phone call to speaker boehner, any deal has to have the rates going up but in the end, carney said it doesn't necessarily, he didn't say this directly but suggested it doesn'
. the negotiations on that fiscal cliff, now just 32 days away. and, today, the top republican in the country, house speaker john boehner, declared a stalemate, while president obama warned that republicans must accept higher taxes on the rich or watch everyone get a tax hike. >> that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> so, what is next? george stephanopoulos is going to sit down with the treasury secretary tim geithner for a reality check on these negotiations, this sunday on "this week." >>> and we head overseas now to israel, and the provocative new announcement there. officials in israel saying they will build 3,000 new israeli homes in jerusalem. the palestinians condemned the announcement. it comes on the heels of that historic vote by the united nations, making palestine an observer state, over the objections of israel and the u.s. >>> and nearby in egypt, tahrir square again filling up with protesters, more than 100,000 at times today, chanting against their president, mohamed morsi, claiming he jammed through a draft of a new constitution, w
over the fiscal cliff is serious business. >> reporter: any real deal-making is the stuff of quiet conversations and meetings. rob neighbors used the language of high-stakes diplomacy to respond to john boehner's complaint >> i thought the conversation was very direct. and as always, i appreciate directness. >> reporter: while the senate majority leader, harry reid, was very blunt about being pessimistic. >> i don't understand his brain, you should ask him. >> reporter: visiting their nation's capitol today, mixed expectations from tourists from georgia and texas >> i hope they get it, more than i did before the election. >> of course i'm nervous, you never know what politicians are going to do. >> reporter: democrats, still lifted by their election success, argued that voters chose higher tax rates for wealthy americans as part of any plan to cut the deficit. and say republicans will have to give in. >> did speaker john boehner get the message? because the message was work together. >> they're not going to openly concede on this point this far out from the deadline, but they see t
the battle over the so-called fiscal cliff. that's the combination, of course, of spending cuts and exexpiring tax breaks set to kick in about a month from now. economists say it could cause another recession. today, the president visited a toy factory in pennsylvania to make his case for his plan. he is asking americans to pressure congress to extend tax cuts for the middle class right now. in fact, extend tax cuts for everybody for the first $250,000 of income. so the families won't have to worry about a new year's day tax hike. republic leaders say letting the tax cuts expire on income of more than $250,000 would hurt small businesses and, as they call them. job creators. let's get to ed henry who is with us from the white house tonight. president says the election proved most americans are on board with this plan. >> that's right. he, without using the word thinks he he basically has a mandate. even though the election is over, he is out campaigning for this again because he thinks there is a dead lock here in washington and he wants to break it with pressure points from the
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washington the count reap is about to go over the fiscal cliff. republicans are urging the republicans to stand against the tax increase. we are 30 days from going over the fiscal cliff . both sides are pointing fingers and blaming each one for the stalemate. but the real losers is you and me, the american taxpayer if the taxpayers can't come to a compromise. steve has more on the part of the grid lock. >> hi, uma. one month away from the critical deadline and there appears to be very little movement to a deal. the president is using the bully pulpit and appeal to the american people and pushing to extend the bush era tax cuts but those making $250,000. a year. democrats want high tax rates for the wealthy. the president stressed the urgency of the situation in the radio address. >> if congress does nothing. every family will see the income taxes go up in the beginning of next year. a family of four will see income taxes rise $2200. we can't let that happen. our families can't afford it and neither can our economy. >> but republicans say the president should quit his campaign mode and
that the president has had with speaker boehner with regards to the fiscal cliff. this call, according to a source familiar with it, told me it lasted for 28 minutes. this official saying it was hardly short or curt, as had been reported by some news outlets. and my colleague, jessica yellen, heard from another source that said that the president told speaker boehner that he felt that rates had to go up on wealthy americans and that there would be no deal without that. so clearly, there is still some distance between the two sides here. the president believing that wealthy americans need to pay more. those bush era tax cuts should not extend for them. republicans believing that all americans should benefit from those tax cuts, and that now you should put en titlements on the table. of as we see, the officials from the white house going up to capitol hill today, treasury secretary timothy geithner, to try to hammer out some deals. still, both sides far apart. >> well, i want to talk about that a little bit. there was an article on this morning that said the two sides are farther along
will be launched over the fiscal cliff if congress and the white house can't agree on a resolution. president obama and house speaker boehner took the fight to the podiums. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to you for just a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle-class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. that -- that doesn't make sense. >> it's not a serious proposal. and so, right now, we're almost nowhere. >> joining me now is nancy cook, budget and tax correspondent for national journal. welcome back, nice to see you. >> you, too. >> let's take a look at white house propose. $1.6 trillion in tax increases, $400 billion in savings. is that how this $1.6 trillion is going to be reached? >> the way the $1.6 trillion will be reached is primarily through the expiration of the bush-era tax cuts for the top 2% of taxpayers. then there would be some other increases in taxes on investment income, again for people above people making more than $250,000, and also some capping of deductions. so there's a, you know,
a slow-growth economy. cheryl: using markets have already priced in the fiscal cliff arguments but why do we see markets get so volatile when john boehner comes out, are almost afraid to see him talk again today because senator reid comes out and down and up. so much reaction. >> you can't rule out the risk that nothing is done and they don't reach an agreement and if taxes go up and spending is cut we will be in a recession next year. and employment 9%, we can't rule that out but it doesn't make sense to let that happen for the administration, the principal of punishing the wealthy is enough to allow the rest of the country to go into a funk doesn't make sense. cheryl: we see numbers and taxing the top 2% do nothing to deal with the overall deficit problem but you also think at the end of the day doesn't matter about the deficit. we are focused on the wrong issue and you are telling long-term investors stay in, don't tinker. >> stay the course. stocks are still cheap, very dumb policy makers at the end of the day. this is not sandy number 2. we can fix it. the stock market is not just th
proposal to overt the so-called fiscal cliff. first up, the president. the president who traveled to a toy company in pennsylvania today to call on congress to extend tax cuts for the middle class. president obama playing a little hardball accusing republicans of playing politics at the expense of american families. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to for you republicans to hold tax cuts hostage because they don't want rates on upper folks to go up. >> john boehner scheduled a last minute news conference. fired back with this. >> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. >> as the rhetoric heats up, the clock continues to tick down. after today, there are just ten legislative days on the calendar. the house announced they will be recessing one day early next would he week. joining me now from the white house, white house correspondent kristen welker. what's the latest from 1600 pennsylvania? >> well, good afternoon, craig. as you can see the
over the last couple weeks. going over the fiscal cliff is serious business and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> reporter: you had senate republican leader mitch mcconnell say after a meeting with geithner that he considered this is a step backward. and so all the rhetoric, all the talk here on capitol hill sounds pretty pessimistic at this point, guys. bill: we heard a little bit from chris van hollen. what is the latest reaction from democrats to republicans mike? melissa: democrats say if you don't like the president's plan, republicans where is your plan? where exactly are you going to generate more revenue. they're trying to draw the republicans out to put specifics out there in terms of what cuts they want to make to entitlements, feeling like that may hurt republican argument. bottom line, house democratic leader nancy pelosi says she thinks republicans will eventually see the light. melissa: why am i confident? because it is the right thing to do. the american people expect and deserve this to happen. it
. the whole fiscal cliff is forcing them to do something. the president has said that tax rates will go up for the wealthy. republicans won't bend on that yesterday, john boehner said, we are at a stalemate. this is posturing. this is washington. we're going to have ups and downs. >> ups and downs in the stock market, as well. david, thanks. have a great weekend. >> you, too. >>> now, to the star college basketball players accused of abusing their position as big men on campus. they're facing burglary charges for allegedly stealing thousands of dollars of stuff from their fellow students. and abc's john muller is covering the story. john? >> reporter: good morning, dan. hofstra students say iphones, computers and cash has been disappearing from their dormrooms all semester. one used an app to find their iphone. now, four players from the division i basketball team are under arrest. faces, covered in shame. hiding tears as they leave a long island courthouse. another man, pushing and even taking swings at a cameraman as he storms out of court. they are the stunned loved ones of four hofstra
the country on the fiscal cliff issue and, secondly, he has to be convincing that republicans will be punished at the ballot box next time if they don't come to a deal. >> but, chris, speaker boehner keeps arguing for cuts but the second time in as many days he declined to name any of the cuts that the gop would make. they seem to be on the defensive. they refuse to give any specifics on what they offer, any deal. republicans want entitlement cuts but often no specifics. they say they will accept new revenue but offer no specifics. say they will make concessions on tax deductions, offer no specifics. they seem to really be on the defensive this time. >> not only are we fresh off an election, which this stuff was intensely litigated. we're not talking about subsidiary issues that didn't get enough attention. we're talking about the stuff that was the first stuff that got said in every debate. the position of raising taxes on the top 2% is incredibly popular. it even polls among the majority of some republicans in some polls. cutting medicare, medicaid is is not popular. in fact, much of the ele
and the white house. house republican leaders have made a counter offer to president obama in the fiscal cliff negotiations proposing to cut to true knowledge with a combination of spending cuts come entitlement reform, and new tax revenues. there was a three page letter signed by speaker boehner, majority leader eric cantor, and other senior republicans including representative paul ryan. and this mornings "washington journal," we heard about tax reductions and credits that would go away if the fiscal cliff passes in january. >> board or series looking into the so-called fiscal cliff, we turn our attention to deductions and tax loopholes. some of them are potentially on the chopping block. joining us from the wall street journal is don mckinnon. thanks so much for joining us today. what are the loopholes and deductions? we hear those words a lot, but what are they? guest: loopholes or tax breaks of all different sorts, and whether you like a particular loophole or not depends on where you sit, i guess. there are lots of loopholes that are deductions. deductions are those that most people are
the fiscal cliff and the market dove yesterday on comments from house speaker john boehner. data released yesterday showed economic growth in the u.s. is still weak. consumers and businesses alike are putting a hold on spending. natalie? >> thank you. >>> and a grade school in south lina has shed new light on how to take a class photo. they didn't just stick the short kids in front, call kids in the back. each child wore a specific color, formed an amazing image of a light house. all part of the annual cultural week at beach hill elementary. great job, kids. that's fantastic. >>> it is 7:19. back to savannah, willie, and al. makes my photos look terrible. >> way more organization than my elementary school. >>> who will be with david gregory? just wondering. >> people don't know, willie trying to do an interview with david gregory, al was heckling him. >> heckling me here, covering serious matters of the day, have the peanut gallery over here. >> can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with. >>> how about the weather. >> let's show you what we've got. here in the east, looking
stories. fiscal cliff talks getting ugly. the president is trying to sell his plan. republicans are furious. house speaker john boehner telling reporters the president needs to get serious. >>> former president, george h.w. bush is in stable condition this morning in a houston hospital. he was admitted a week ago and being treated for bronchitis. he's expected to be released in the next few days. he is 88 years old. >>> scientists report the mile thick ice sheets that cover greenland and antarctica are melting. we have lost tons of ice in the last 20 years raising the sea level by 7/16 inch. >>> thursday night football action. falcons in atlanta. they got off to a 17-0 lead before the saints scored a single point. atlanta defense had a good night. five interceptions. falcons go on to win it. they are now 11-1 on the year. atlanta could clench the nfc south if they lose to denver on sunday. >> all right. she's bruised, but not broken. coming up, inside lady liberty for a look at the damage left behind by sandy to see what needs to be done to get this american icon back up and run
, on avoiding going over the fiscal cliff. jess, what have you learned? >> reporter: well, you know, the news here today is that in a phone call yesterday between the president and speaker boehner, i'm told by ae person familiar with the call, that the president made clear to the speaker that for him there will be no deal on the fiscal cliff unless both sides agree to raise rates on the wealthiest. that means raise tax rates for top earners. the reason that this is news is because there's been discussion publicly that perhaps they could find a rev new agreement where it would just involve capping deductions or maybe they could get to revenue just through tax reform, and with this piece of detail from that phone call yesterday, it would seem that the democrats, the president personally, is drawing a line saying those other ways are not enough. his campaign message that the top earners have to pay more, he is sticking to that line many these negotiations. >> jess, do we know how the republicans responded to this red line? >> well, speaker boehner was frustrated, wrovl, and came out with -- in h
with each leader this morning to talk about the fiscal cliff or slope or curve. but whatever you call it, politico's front page headline reads, fiscal cliff deal emerging. it hashes out the flame woframe agreement including $400 billion in cuts to entitlements. but how close are they really? depends on who you ask. >> what's going on between the decision makers is little to nothing. >> you can actually now see what the contours of the deal look like. >> i'm optimistic that we can continue to work together to overt this crisis and sooner rather than later. >> we will not negotiate the end of medicare. i don't know what it is with these republicans. >> it's safer if you're on the progressive end of the political spectrum to go over the fiscal cliff than it is to agree to some of the things they're talking about. >> ruth, where do you stand, deal or no deal? >> not who deal, but who are more pessimistic. the clock is really ticking. about ten legislative days left in the year. outlines are there but the willingness to do it and the ability to get it done in time, i'm more disappointed than
of concerns pertaining to washington and the fiscal cliff. we're watching any headline that comes out of washington because it can be a market moving event like last week when reid and boehner spoke. that jerks the market around one way or another. december is the best on wall street, the best of the 12 for s&p, but now it's lower one-third of 1%. that's the latest. phil, how is the cme? >> tell you what, the oil prices are really unmoved on the story out of egypt. traders watching that very, very carefully, but, today, the markets seem to be done on concerns about the swelling economy and the fiscal cliff, but this comes on a day when oil production in the united states hit another milestone. oil production last month hit the highest level since 1998, another step towards energy independence in the country, and another reason why oil prices are under pressure. the spread between the u.s. and europe, we're making a lot of progress on the oil production front, but across theeboard, we are seeing products really getting hit. oil, a feature today, down over five cents a gallon, and a lot
-called fiscal cliff and president obama making his case to raise taxes on the rich while john boehner, the speaker of the house opens negotiating. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to you, for a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want the tax rates on upper income folks to go up. all right? that, that doesn't make sense. >> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy that needs to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. and we're willing to put revenues on the table, but revenues that come from closing loopholes, getting rid of special interest deductions and not raising rates. >> clayton: so with all of that, the white house saying they're unwilling to compromise on tax likes for the wealthy, where do we go from here. >> juliet: let's ask dana perino, currently on "the five" fox news channel. >> how are you. >> a great so-so far, lots of calories on that table out there. >> dave: speaking of ugly, how was the offer fro
-called fiscal cliff. president obama meets with bipartisan groups of governors about the problem today. the meeting a day after house speaker jonathan boehner laid a republican plan to solve the crisis on the table and calls for $800 billion in higher taxes revenue and does not increase taxes on wealthy americans. the white house is rejecting the offer, saying any deal must include an end to tax cuts for families making over $250,000. >>> and the senate has approved a new u.s. commander for the war in afghanistan. he's marine corporal general joseph doneford and replaces general john al llen, nominatedo head forces in europe. allen's nomination on hold because of his involvement in the sex scandal that brought down former cia director david petraeus. >>> in foreign news, new intelligence reports, indicate syria's government may be preparing to use chemical and biological weapons against the rebels. in response though, the u.s. and its allies are considering military options. here's abc's martha raddatz. >> reporter: the latest intelligence is alarming. officials telling abc news the u.
in response to his unreasonable proposal to how congress can avert the fiscal cliff. shortly after the election, the house republican leadership presented the president with a balanced framework of coupling spending come cutlers and reforms. it also states, quote, regrettably the proposal outlined on behalf of your administration contains very little in the way of common ground. the proposal calls for a $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue, twice the amount you supported during the campaign. end of quote. house republicans understand the necessity of finding a reasonable solution. we have made it very clear, we're willing to work with the senate leadership to find middle ground legislation. it is my hope the president will begin these -- taking these negotiations seriously and work with the house republicans to find a balanced approach to this challenge. in conclusion, god bless our troops and we will never forget september 11 and the global war on terrorism. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from south carolina yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from ohio seek recog
offers when i'm buying a condominium, but the problem is we're so close to the fiscal cliff that you wonder why the president and the white house did what they did. not because they didn't have a right to start there and play hardball, but because john boehner is balancing. republicans say they will never, ever, ever vote for a tax increase, and those who say okay, well, let's make a deal. and i just think the president, by starting with a proposal that even "the wall street journal" said was provocative, maybe not the best first step to help john boehner pull over a majority of his caucus. >> totally disagree, because i think it gives boehner room now to look like he brought the president in now. i think it's a great first offer, because it's going to have to change now. just like bidding on a house, i give ridiculously low offers. but you ultimately end up with a deal. >> you see even this answer? she doesn't believe a thing she says. but that's her first offer. >> we'll see what happens with the second offer. when you look at what's happened over the past week, a couple of campaig
. >> reporter: meanwhile with the so-called fiscal cliff looming, president obama sends his chief negotiator, tim geithner, to capitol hill today for individual meetings with each member of the congressional leadership, including speaker boehner. wednesday, mr. obama brought back a campaign atmosphere, surrounding himself with what he called average middle class families to ramp-up pressure on republicans. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. >> reporter: the president wants congress to extend the bush tax rates for those making less than $250,000, but let taxes go up for everyone else. he's taking that message on the road friday to pennsylvania. not to be outdone on the pr front, house republicans hosted a group of nervous business leaders who have signed on to a campaign called "fix the debt" who want spending cuts to supplement the tax hikes. >> we put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts to avert this crisis. >> reporter: and as the president gets set to change up
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